Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Will AI ruin school?”.
Hit me Dan, okay, I’m gon na hear from Elliot. What do you think the education system can will do to counter the use of AIS like chat GPT for cheating um? I guess you know you could also think about these uh Adobe AIS as well. Ah, look and I talked about this afterward I mean, I think one of the big things is going away from um assignments that are write this thing and moving towards assignments that are more based around critiquing or um or or validating a thing. I think that I mean you know what’s interesting.
I was thinking about this after we talked and one of the things that we did in our in my like challenge English class was, we would actually have to write the entire assignment in class. Sometimes, is that valuable? Because this comes back to the calculator question: oh yes, okay, it’s well! It’S valuable for the teacher because yeah, but it’s so valuable for the student. Oh okay! Yes, like is doing five times five valuable in a world where you have calculators.
That’S not what you’re doing, because in this case we’re talking about essay writing. So what you are doing is you are practicing the process of making an argument which no, you are not going to be able to replace with an AI, because you’re going to be have to make arguments verbally as well. So you are, you are training the skill of creating an argument, backing it up and then summarizing your argument, that’s what an essay is and for the teacher they are.
They are, then, marking not just your your grammar and spelling or whatever else, they’re marking your thought process. Your ability to uh construct a cogent argument, which is arguably the most valuable possible life skill. If you cannot convey your ideas in a convincing way to other people.
What possible hope do you have that’s why I liked we’ve talked about this before when my I’ve found a teacher that wouldn’t Mark me on my punctuation, quite as hard all the time, because there was no way I was gon na ever get that right, yep with The the dyslexia stuff and whatnot like it was always going to be a problem, so it was nice when he started grading on those things a little bit more and that makes sense. You know what something very fun to do. Yeah is ask GPT how classrooms should operate in a world that has GPT in it.
Oh interesting, it actually gives like pretty good answers related to kind of what you were just saying, yeah. I wasn’t actually in disagreement. I was just challenging the same yeah but like it’s.
I won’t have to fire you to go good yeah. That’S my job remains as long as you don’t actually disagree with me publicly. That was an almost straight face. Delivery of that I am 100 joking. I feel like I have to clarify that I don’t have to fire. You um yeah, it’s it’s it’s interesting.
It talks about um just doing things in in when it would be a problem potentially slightly different ways. Having people do observed original creation a little bit more. Like you were just talking about um, but it also talks about how, in some cases not that one um, the the calculator problem like what is really the point, if the point isn’t something slightly alternative um like maybe you should get them to to do things that Are more alike what they would do with this output, because output is not always going to be perfect or it might not always be what you’re looking for yeah? So you need to learn, refinement and you need to learn like yeah. You could just grade harder yeah, like that’s another thing too like if, if the assignment is a book report on um The Adventures of Tom Sawyer or something like that, you could basically tell them look. You can use any tool you want, including in AI generator, uh, but know this. If you get a plot Point detailed wrong or you have a spelling error, you immediately lose 50 of your grade because I’ll be able to tell you didn’t, read it.
So you need to know the subject matter cold in order to tell if the AI output is actually accurate. I, like this one um, someone said, have more in-class debate. That’S an interesting one! There’S maybe some problems with that. I don’t know yeah not. Everybody participates in class and like uh, oral participation is um. Sometimes it encourages the wrong people yeah to participate too much and doesn’t allow um some of the more thoughtful people, especially if we’re talking like high school, some of the more thoughtful people to really share what they’re thinking um, there’s no perfect solution. So what you really need is uh is a balance of different approaches. I, I think really the most important thing and I’ve been surprised at how many don’t I’ve also been okay.
Yeah I’ve got a couple things to go over um. I I think it’s very important that teachers are aware of its existence and that they don’t necessarily continue following the exact status quo that they have been for a while yeah, because this is going to change the game. Something I’ve been surprised about. People been throwing around usage statistics, it got to 1 million users in five days, wow, which is pretty crazy and they’ve been comparing that to other meteoric Rises of other things like Instagram and Facebook and yada sure.
I’M actually surprised it’s not more really. Maybe the speed like five days to get to one million okay, sure I’m just surprised the number that it got to wasn’t actually higher, because I’m stunned that, like every student that has heard of this, is not immediately using it yeah because the window for using it To yeah is very narrow, yeah the education system is going to respond, they like have to um and it’s still online now it is now bookmarked and always open on my computer at all points in time, because I have started because that’s how he’s always been doing His work anyway by cheating, so he might as well cheat more efficiently. I mean, if I could, why not um but like I’ve, never done a real estate work in my life uh if you can take shortcuts.
That are good that, like this one of my one of my best friends growing up um used to this, is not how he said it, but he effectively said like being lazy, is a virtue yeah because and he’s a back-end developer now it makes sense um because He will find way days to like not have to do this repetitive task or whatever it doesn’t mean he’s expressed at it, but he’s going to be creative and inventive to make it so that that thing is better or is now automated or whatever else um and Like yeah, you should use the tools you have um, but I use it in place of Google search. Sometimes now yeah, I’m careful you got to validate, you have to validate yep um, but like yeah, there’s, there’s fairly simple things that I’ll Google to try to get an answer for and I’m like. Okay, I got three ads. I got some clearly clickbaity websites that are just throwing like like something that I hate doing is searching for reviews of, like anything that isn’t a section that has large creators behind it, because you’re just going to get all these websites that are just like Amazon click Farm websites right that just try to give you like. Oh this, is the top 10 DVD oil, whatever snowboarding goggles like scuba, whatever, like anything that you’re looking for it’ll, just be like.
Ah, what are they actually well? Probably the top 10 products on Amazon and every single one of them has an Amazon link because they just want you to use their affiliate, so they can make money. That’S all they actually want. It’S not actually good, it’s so annoying uh. So with like those types of things, it’s nicer to be able to just ask gbt and have it spit out an answer that is actually an answer right away.
It might not be right and you need to verify, and you need to make sure that it’s not like complete crap, but it’s usually if you know that it will confidently lie. In my opinion, it’s not that hard to notice when it is yeah um, but you have to be aware that it will do that. Um, yeah .