Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “We Can’t Stop Cheating”.
It’S exciting yeah, it’s cool, it’s good! Is it time again? No, not yet, I wonder be too early valve. Where is Steam OS yeah come on man. Let us run another computer, especially with um all these like hyperinvasive anti-s, which are like the only way forward, because there’s a unprecedented insane amount of people, cheating in multiplayer games right now, um I like would we’re talking about how the console’s dying, I think gaming device Is going to be a thing, though, so I think you like might legitimately not want to do all the things you do on a computer on your gaming computer, if you’re playing a bunch of games that have these hyper invasive kernel level, anti- cheets! So, like there’s some idea there P software has opinions on kernel level, anti-che yeah. I know H man. How do we fix cheating in games the way that they are right now? You can’t fix it at an OS level.
You can’t fix it at a game level. You can’t fix it can’t fix it at a driver level. You just can’t fix it. Ban video games.
Can you fix it at a hardware level? In my opinion, you have to fix it and you still won’t be able to fix it. You have to try to alleviate it. This is this is why I push so hard with tarov, which they’re never going to do it um. But this is why I push so hard for them to have the replay system yeah um, because, like people used to love, love, love love the uh, whatever it was called system.
Overwatch system for Counterstrike, where reported users would go into this OverWatch queue and users in good standing could review the OverWatch queue and then, like basically vote on what they thought it was, and they would show it to a bunch of different people to get like a Vote on, if this person was cheating or not um people liked it so much that Counterstrike creators would just stream themselves going through the OverWatch queue, because it was interesting um and I I actually think it helped very significantly, because they’re never going to be able to Detect everything it’s just not going to happen. Tell me this: if a game developer was willing to implement support for it. So by support for it I mean locked off servers where only people who have this device can participate.
Would you buy a device that is essentially a camera and a piece of software that monitors the screen that uses Machine Vision to track your actions on your peripherals track hold on hold on just I’m, wait, I’m waiting locally locally tracks, what’s happening on your peripherals and Locally tracks what’s happening on your screen and ensures that they correspond it’s not enough. Why not in tarov people cheat this one’s very debatable how much it’s used, but a lot of people think it’s a lot and like, if you remember goat’s video, he was only detecting people that were doing this style of cheating, where it’s a cheat that on your Screen they can see through walls, they can see wireframes through walls all that type of stuff there’s another form of cheating, and this form of cheating is in multiple games where you have an external computer, so you have a what is it dma device direct memory access Device you go to an external computer and then you can see people on the other computer, so you’re talking about your own screen. Some people cheat within a completely external screen. No that’s true, but yeah. I guess that wouldn’t help, because then everything would still correspond and unless it’s watching your eyes, Okay, so next eye tracking as Next Level now you’re not allowed. Looking at a spare monitor, though um well you’re not allowed to. Basically, you would still be able to do some stuff, like you’d, be able to stop moving, look at something else, MIM that you’re doing something. No, you wouldn’t because you’re just looking at something else, you you you’d, be able to take your mouse off your your hand off your mouse and pretend you’re looking at your phone over here for a little bit and then you’d be able to go back to your Thing, but that would put you at a significant competitive disadvantage in a lot of games, if you, if you actually so you okay, so it theoretically, remember guys this is a theoretical product. So, theoretically, it is a device that has a camera that monitors your hand, movements, an eye tracker that monitors your eye movements and then a piece of software that it’s tied into it or better.
Yet not software, a third camera that monitors the screen and ensures that everything is synced. And how does this work it like reports in everything, okay signal? Basically, it’s it’s an every everything’s fine alarm, all the time and it so it’ll ping, it’ll ping, the multiplayer server, saying everything’s: okay, everything’s, okay, everything’s, okay and then, if any, if it ever stops, then you’re kicked immediately. If it worked, let’s say it’s I’m going to hold on: let’s do stages this hold on it’s just it’s it’s! What I’ve described so far.
Would you consider buying it if there was a big enough ecosystem that you knew that in a game you like to play? Other people would be using it and you could play on a cheat free server. It sounds so susceptible to a massive honey pot. Ignore that let’s say it worked uh and like wasn’t the giant honey pot for people to come, everything was essentially locally stored other than the everything’s okay alarm.
Yeah people get um yeah, probably to be honest, and I just cover up the cameras when I wasn’t playing well. Let’S talk about the pricing. Oh I mean that doesn’t whoa hello, buddy um that doesn’t sound cheap. No, let’s say it’s $ 300. Does it work in multiple games? It works in any game where the developer implements support and has cheat free like like cheat eye or whatever you want to call it. So can we assume this is like not 100 % but pretty ubiquitous uh? Look, it’s not ubiquitous! No, it’s supported in a handful of games, but one or two of them happen to be ones that you like to play.
I would consider it depending on the games. 300 bucks. I would consider it depending on the games.
Let’S say it was supported in tarov yeah. You would you play, would you play uh, whatever not raids, not extractions, whatever they’re called instances raids sure, would you play raids with this device and this device alone? If it was available and would you spend the money on it? I think I think you’d have to be in lobbies only with other people using it well yeah you would so you’d have exclusive, and I think there’s like I said, the external monitor thing is still going to happen. Um, I don’t know it’s not a guarantee, because the external monitor thing, because there’s there’s, we really have no idea what percentage of people are using that yep um, that’s fair.
We know it’s a lot. We know it’s like actually a huge amount of people, uh cuz. There’S a weird thing: where that’s the easiest way to cheat with your friends as well, because it’s the least suspicious to the other people that you’re playing with right um.
If, if, if it could get around that yeah, I think I would because I to me be completely honest to me, like firsters, shooter style, competitive games right now are actually just ruined. I don’t think any of them is. I don’t even think that’s a controversial take.
So someone told me like oh but there’s no cheating, inv valerant, they have the colonel level anti-che and it’s like, but like bro YouTube, it they’re everywhere, like maybe it helps them. Maybe, but ultimately, this is a. This is a like back and forth.
That will go forever. Okay, so here’s one Elijah uh said something else, but it made me think of something different yeah, good job, um you’re, doing great it’s a Val, it’s a valuable, it’s a valuable skill. Knowing that there’s going to be knowing that there’s going to be a cost in terms of latency right you’re, going to probably it’ll cost you a frame of latency, let’s say 15 milliseconds.
Would you play a competitive shooter from a cloudstream service? If you knew that every other client connected was also using the same cloudstream service and the whole thing was running locally, so they could monitor what absolutely everyone is doing. So nothing goes in. Nothing goes out other than mouse and keyboard inputs and Frame data. Would that be more fun these days? If everyone’s doing it, I think so, if everyone, because the the biggest thing is not it’s not getting owned, cuz like you know, I’m getting older, I’m getting a little bit slower, I’m not as good at FPS games as I used to be also don’t play them. As much like it’s just not that’s fine, I’m gon na lose um. It’S it’s having a very legitimized theory that the person that just beat you might be cheating, yeah and like in that seat of doubt.
It just ruins the whole thing and like in tarov. They added a thing where you can view people’s profiles after they kill you and it’s like oh cool. This guy has a 75 % extraction rate, probably just die to a cheater go into the next game. This guy has 17 KD. That is definitely possible. There are people that are definitely legit that definitely have KDs better than that that dude’s, probably not one of them right, like I, don’t know, um and it just sucks time to break up World of Tanks. Let’S see, let’s see World of Tanks, cheats. Cheats are World of Tanks, World of Tanks banned thousands of cheaters in February how to cheat in world of tanks.
The legal aim Che World of Tanks doesn’t want you to know about all right. Multiplayer competitive games are covered in cheaters right now. It’S actually crazy. It’S mostly in like games that involve projectiles, so I was going to say firstperson shooter, but I don’t know if you hell divers has a problem. Does it a PVE like multiplayer game people, suck teamwork yeah? If you, if you’re, cheating and Hell divers, you are not a citizen wow that is not very Democratic of you not declared. Not a citizen got him not not patriotic.
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