They will NEVER forgive me…

Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “They will NEVER forgive me…”.
I’M going head to head with my buddy JayzTwoCents to see who can build the best gaming PC for $ 750., The catch We’re at our fine sponsor Micro, Center’s brand new Indianapolis location. Jay. Are you ready to lose Yes. (, Austin, laughs? )? The rules are simple.. Whoever can build the best gaming PC when it comes to price to performance in a few benchmarks is going to win the competition.. The first thing I wan na do we have a little bit of time before people actually come in the store, so I can actually properly scout.

Look. Jay knows how to build really nice high-end systems, but that’s not what this is about.. This is about rolling your sleeves up, getting your hands dirty and making some questionable decisions in the hope that you can win on a technicality.. Oh look at this., Okay, you know what I’m gon na do. Is I’m just gon na go ahead and just grab one of these. $ 25 for an Inland Prime one terabyte SSD.? Now this is one of these deals that you can only get in store right now, but you are not gon na find a better SSD for $ 25.. Can I just give you a little disclaimer real, quick, Don’t really necessarily build what I’m building., I’m not building this for anything else.

Other than to rub Jay’s face in the idea that I’m better at building PCs than him. Option number one is to go cheap on my CPU. Ryzen, 5 3600 plus motherboard will still give me a large budget for the graphics card.. However, that is going to be perfectly serviceable and probably a good sort of balance., But that is a slightly older CPU., I’m going to lose that on that CPU benchmark almost for sure..

That being said, if I can dominate Jay on the graphics side, that’s gon na be a worthwhile. Trade.. Let me try to find my non-important components. Lem me see how much money I can save with like power supply and case and that kind of stuff..

And then I can look at the exact budget that I’ll have to it to allocate. 32 gigs of RipJaws for $ 25, So I’m gon na commit to doing DDR4. So that’s fine., I’m not gon na spend the extra money on DDR5 versus split this.. So 25 bucks for 32 gigs of Ram, and it’s also 3200. Ah Jay. – For a dude who knows how to build PCs. I felt like he’s poking his head around the corner, an awful lot to see what I’m doing. There’s, actually a good selection of different components..

In fact, actually look up, here. There’s even more. They got …. Oh, they got 68 …, Oh dude. I want to get a 6800, but there’s no way I can do 475..

Could I do a $ 475 graphics card in a $ 750 system? [ Ken ] Case is optional right. That’S a good idea! Ken.! I’M not gon na buy a case. So for power supply. It’S probably recommended to do like a 650 watt and then that’s why I need a 1200 watt power supply because I want 80 plus titanium –, More power supply power means more CPU, power., More power baby. Mo powa babeh.. Okay, so I have two choices: here.

For $ 64 for an open box. I can get a B450-A Prime.. This does have both the Ryzen 3000 and 5000 stickers on it.. So I assume that’s fine or I could go a … [ suspenseful noise ] Hey! So I wan na run something by.

Yeah. What’S good, How do you feel about making things more interesting? What’S your idea For every dollar you come in under budget, you get a 1 % increase in your score. Jay’s curve. Ball means that if I spend $ 650 instead of $ 750, I get a full doubling of my performance tally..

So I get a 100 % improvement. Or if I spend $ 550, I get a 200 % improvement.. Is this a whole lot of math for a quick YouTube? Video? Yes, it is, but at the end of the day, what this means is that Jay and I are massively incentivized to spend as little as possible.

All right.. It’S a deal, my friend. All right..

So I’m gon na go with the Ryzen 5 3600.. This is a decent CPU, but importantly, it’s gon na be good for the money and it comes with the cooler.. Okay, I’m gon na do this., I’m also gon na go for the board.. So this is an A520 it’s $ 70.. But importantly, when I bundle these two together, I get a $ 20 discount.. The real test is gon na, be how low do I go on my graphics card and I got ta go low..

You know what my case is This box in my case. Ooh, an open box ARC., Oh …, Oh dude, 200 bucks., I’m gon na get that before he gets it.. I think that’s actually my move. Thank you. Thank you.. Okay. This is gon na be it.. I don’t think there’s a better price to performance card here.’Cause.

If you go that much cheaper, you’re gon na be losing so much more.. I think this is my move. Okay., So we have flown to Indianapolis to help celebrate Micro, Center’s launch of their brand new Indianapolis store., And for this not only are we building these gaming PCs utilizing a ton of the really great in-store deals. They’Ve got going on right now., But on top of that, we’re also going to be giving these PCs away.. So there happen to be just a couple: people who swung by and everyone who’s here is eligible to win the gaming PCs.. Okay, so we’ll we’ll go through the parts of this here., We’ll start with the little stuff. The stuff we think probably are gon na match., So SSD SSD., I mean obviously Inland Prime. Yeah 24.99 one terabyte drive..

You cannot — Gen three.. I think that this build the price point. We were at Gen four made no sense. No.

Save five bucks. And that five bucks is now 5 %. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah., No – and I mean $ 25 – is an absolute no brainer.. This isn’t an ad.

This is like a real deal.. Should we do Ram ?’Cause, I thinks. Maybe we’ve got the same: Ram. RipJaws, 24.99. Yeah. You can’t beat this.

24.99 32 gigabyte kit of DDR4 CL16. 3200.. I think next we should go with the motherboard because now — Motherboard.. No! No! No okay., Sorry, sorry, power, supply.

Power, supply. Yeah you’re, not gon na, like my power supply., So I got the next best thing., The white Thermaltake 500 for 41.99.. I went with the 650 watt –. Oh 74.9, –! No, that’s not what it cost.! Okay. So this is where now we’re gon na start feeling the separation. Yeah.

Okay. I will go first on motherboard. Motherboard, okay, yeah. And it’s funny the board that you went with’cause. I just saw it. Yeah.. I was considering it., So I went with a B450 and now the consideration I had here was okay, it’s B450, but we know we wan na go with 5000 series CPU.. So I was worried about BIOS, but the fact that it says it’s already.

5000 ready tells me the BIOS is new enough., But I looked at that exact A520 and they’re gon na see it in the video., So 70 bucks for this guy.. So anyway, there is a combo deal with 20 bucks off. If you get a motherboard and a CPU., We decided we’re just … We’re not going to include the combo we’re just gon na go with the MSRP prices., The actual prices. Okay, our last — CPU CPU CPU.. I have a feeling we are definitely different on this one.. We are most certainly different. All right.

What do you got? Ryzen. 5. 3600.. Oh see, I considered that.

Yeah. I did consider that.. I went with a 5500.. Oh that’s! Actually, — Six core 12 thread., Newer generation, Ryzen processor cores.. How much was that 89? What No it’s not.? Yes, it is. 89.99.. I had to confirm with Jason.. Oh well.

I got at Ryzen 5 3600 for $ 80’cause. I thought that was $ 100. [ Jay ]. I have to hope this is 10 % faster than that in Cinebench and Geekbench.. Actually, you know what I think it’s actually probably about 10 %. The Zen 2.5 to Zen 3 was a huge jump in IPC –. What’S your clock speed This guy goes 4.2.. Well. 4.2. Is the max boost.

3.6 base.? Oh, so it’s exact same.! So it’s pure –! I can overclock it. Again. We’Ve established, I am not gon na, do anything related to overclocking today.. If I can get 5 % more in performance out of it by just changing a multiplier., Okay, all right., Let’s do GPU.! Yes, and I have a funny story about this one.. Okay. Would you like to go first Because I feel like I always go first.? Okay, so I have an open box: A750.

[, Austin ], What the …, What There were two of them. No, I opened it to inspect it, which made it open box and they printed me a label for it so that we could make it fair., ( audience laughs ), I think he’s cheating, but this is the kind of cheating that I support.. This is like kind of the spirit of the game.. What do you have for your case? I have a sneaky suspicion. You don’t have one. Whatever would make.

You think that Now I feel like that’s technically cheating only because one of the things that makes it a build is the fact that you have the main components. [ Austin ]. I have a case. [, Jay ], Okay, a cardboard box is not a case..

I have a home for my components. So anyway this was an mATX Cooler, Master Q300L. It was 34 bucks., It’s literally the cheapest case. They have here and it’s micro ATX..

So my entire build had to hinge on micro ATX.. So I chose this case first and then chose a platform that would work on micro ATX., So it fits in here. That way. At the end of the day, when I beat you it’ll still look nicer.

[, Austin ], Here’s the thing though.. How are you gon na beat me Think about it.. You just spent an additional third: that’s 35 % off..

My system is almost the same and I’m way cheaper.. How are you gon na — [ Jay ]? What was your total cost $ 441. [ Jay ]? So I’m 529.

I’ve got a 100 % …. You have to double my score to win. May the best man win.

I’ll, be done in about five minutes. ( laughs ). It would probably take you …

No.. Do you know how to build a computer? So I put … Is this the … ( upbeat music ), I’m hoping Austin’s doesn’t catch on fire. Considering it’s in a box.. I really want Austin to win — [ Austin ] Yeah Only because this is very on brand for him..

Definitely think Jay’s gon na win’cause he can overclock.. I want the jankiness of Austin’s to win, but also I kind of wan na see him a little sad., So I’m gon na root for Jay.. I think Austin’s gon na win on technicality. Austin’s got a pretty good one..

You know he’s got the cosmetics. The airflow open, case. Jay’s got a nice design though.. I did expect Austin to be a little taller, though so.

Same., ( audience laughs, ) All right. So here’s the thing., I feel very confident right now that I’m gon na win in the price to performance.. The only thing that could get me is if the aesthetics aren’t on point., So I’m going to carefully modify this box — [ Jay ], As if there’s any chance of the aesthetics being on point at all.. You know what I like the enthusiasm over here..

I’M gon na make this thing. Sweet. Look. I’Ve already got the back, so it’s gon na keep the graphics card nice and set..

I want this to be able to close easily.. Am I gon na? Have any structural rigidity? No, in fact I … I’m gon na have to cut this part off, but it’s fine.. I want this to actually be not a 100 % scuffed, just like 80 % scuffed.

( Austin clapping, ) [, Speaker ]. Are you done [ Jay ]? Is this your first time you’ve built something You’re, so proud. ( audience laughs ). I can’t believe I’m about to say this — Wait wait., I don’t know if I’ve ever been prouder of a PC.

I built. [ Jay ], Look how gentle he has to be.. Don’T trip on your cord.. Can we just get a quick check? Who here thinks that Jay built a better looking system? ( audience applauds ) Woo., Woo., [, Austin ], And what about mine, Woo., Woo., ( audience applauds ), That’s pretty close..

That was way closer than I expected it to be. Okay.. There’S a magnetic dust … There. You go. There you go. No ironically, there are no intake fans on this., But it looks nicer now., It does look nice. And you could fit two 140s in the front., So I flipped the power supply fan, so it’s feeding or getting air from inside the chassis. As an exhaust. – And we were gon na – put the rear fan on the front, so at least we had some cross flow. Yeah.. The issue is this particular motherboard doesn’t have a single fan header on that side of the board, so the cable wouldn’t have reached.

Great.. So a little drawback to that particular design., But you get a window. We have a …, Yeah and what’s cool about this case is it can be upright and it’s got feet on the side panel, so you can also put it as a …. You know lay it down flat. My system doesn’t do any of that.

It just –. You can technically lay it any way you want, but — As long as they stay together.. So I’m very proud of this., I’m very happy for the record..

If you open up, you see here that we’ve got some impeccable cable management., So we got ourselves the 20 4, as well as our single four pin CPU, because it doesn’t even need eight pins because whatever. Then, once you close it up, which you’ll see is that It expertly is nice and neat and because it doesn’t have a power button, I have easy access to jump it using my easy access. Point., You don’t even have a –, No, no no., There’s no service amount of buttons –. This comes with an iFixit kit to jump your computer, every time. Yeah, because you know other pins nearby are not a problem.. No, but is there anything here that could be a flammable fire hazard, Yes. Or a potential electrical issue? Yes.? Oh, it’s like the apartment. All over again.

( audience laughs, ), [, Austin ]. You know what You’re disqualified., ( audience laughs, ) Okay. All right here we go. Where’s the power button, Hey.

Okay, it turned on.. No, no, that’s the first one.. This is the first one.

Now. Do we get actual signal? Okay, it looks like we had a …. We do have a standby –.

We have a standby light.. Is that monitor good? I have no idea.. I’Ve never used the setup., I’m assuming this came off of it., Let’s see if you –. Okay, let’s come over to my side., Okay where’d, I put my IFixit kit, I’m sorry, my power button. Okay., Your power button. Did you get the big one We’re gon na flip the switch on my power supply.

Nothing’s on fire.? I don’t have USB. Unlike you.. All right here goes: nothing.

Woo.. Okay, we got power., We got power. Okay.

You’re on standby, for the monitor.. So that’s good. Fans are spinning across the board.

Come on come on, come on., (, audience, laughs, ), Oh oh. Yep! You got a blue light. Yes.. That was the longest post of my life.. So now that our systems are built, the next step is to get Windows installed, drivers all that kind of fun stuff., And while I’m shocked and amazed that my system pretty much works, first, try no issues. Jay has spent the last hour first troubleshooting the fact that he had a dead stick of Ram, and then he tried to overclock his GPU by 200 % and it kept crashing..

Well, why don’t? We start with 3DMark –? Okay, fine –, It’s already up okay.! Yours is 11,704. Mine, 11,232., Going backwards now with GPU. Superposition.

Superposition., So mine is 14,839.. Oh mine’s, 14,727. Moving on to Geekbench. Geekbench., 8,008. 7,522.

Cinebench, 9,224., 10,270.. Okay, we’re gon na math this up and then we’re gon na give these away. Yeah. Who wants a PC, Woo., Woo. ( audience applauds ) [ Austin ].

You probably want Jay’s though. [ Jay ], No wait wait., Who wants Austin’s Woo. Woo. [ Jay ].

There was a delay.. No one wanted to go first. [, Austin ], Who wants Jay’s Woo. Woo.

Because they can carry it away. Who wants my PC and then go to the back and buy a new case for it: Woo. Woo., [, Austin ]. There we go.

There you go. There. We go.

Okay, what is the final tally? [ Ken ], Okay, so Jay 143,000., So 143,000., That multiplier really added up.. For my system, we’ve got — [ Ken ], 174,000. Wow, that’s actually closer than a. I thought it was gon na be.. It’S actually not that bad.

Good fight, my friend.. While we give these away subscribe to the website and ringling the dingling button and check out all of our components, including my –, Did you say the dingling button? Yeah, you don’t — Demonetized.. You already did that and so — I didn’t do it.

Subscribe and ringling the dingling button. Also check out the wonderful parts in this system. The link’s in the description. Micro Center doesn’t probably recommend you to build it like this, but if you wan na also buy like a case or something they sell, those too., Let’s give away some PCs. ( audience cheers ) .