Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Reject Modernity, Embrace Repairable Laptops”.
Lenovo good topic launches, repairable laptops. This is really exciting. Lenovo is partnering with I fix it. Can I fix it all these Brands win harder like I don’t I don’t get it. This is crazy.
They’Re partnering with I fix it on a series of ThinkPad business laptops with user replaceable Parts owners of the T14 Gen 5 and t16 gen 3 will be able to independently swap out the battery Ram, SSD and Wi-Fi module. Actually, that’s not really as exciting as I thought it might be. Um our notes. That is not more that’s than used to be default. Um, oh okay! Well, this is less of a threat to framework than I sort of thought it might be uh. The CPU is still soldered, although I would have assumed that that’s they just they just come in BGA packages.
These days um, are we sure that’s it? Is that a Miss? They will come with easily accessible repair, rep guides and videos, though that’s good. I fix it, gave the new laptops a repairability score of 9.3 out of 10, so investment disclosure framework appears to be safe. For now, since Lenovo is not talking about upgradeability and that’s a big, I don’t have any investment in framework. They have a massive value out over this. This not even close, however, I’m willing to bet these thinkpads are more price competitive because they know that at you will be fixing it not using.
You know, lower margin, uh lower cost parts to upgrade it um, so you’ll have to you’ll have to Rey a laptop. If you actually want a faster one, so this is cool and I’m really glad to see that this conversation is not going anywhere, but so far none of the tier ones have seen what framework is doing and gone. I can do that and I would like them to uh.
I been part of the goal, the whole time yeah. I uh. I have no intention to sell my framework shares they’re only they’re only profitable, if I ever sell them um. So, for me it’s just an investment into this movement.
I want to see it be a success and uh, I’m really, I’m really glad. Ultimately, I think what I was trying to do has borne out better than I could have expected. Yeah you’ve been well, I I don’t want to too attribute too much to you, but I think framework’s existence and its success has inspired at least some amount of change, especially in the laptop industry, but we’re seeing it spill out to other ones as well, and I Think that, For Better or For Worse, the discourse around me and framework, whether it’s people complaining about you, know the ethics of it or or people whatever. Just the the the association, I think has been good for the framework brand um, and so that goal that I had of putting my money into it and saying no really. I believe in this enough to do this um.
I think it’s had an impact kind of. Ironically, I think whenever, whenever you do the uh like warning, I am an investor in this thing, people are going to look into it. It like gives it more exposure.
It’S almost like more helpful that you have to tell people every time you talk about a laptop. It like totally works out. I got to be with sometimes I forget, because it just it makes no to me, I’m going to use it. The main reason I daily drive.
It is not because it’s my favorite laptop the main reason that I daily drive. It is because I want to force myself to be a user so that I can good feedback, give them feedback anytime. I run into a problem uh so that I I can make a difference like that’s. That’S the that’s the reason I’m doing it. Um there there’s multiple laptops that I like better than it, I’m a huge fan of the Asus flow X3, for example. We’Re looking at awesome.
Standardization updates for systems here and a big conversation is like how many people are going to be. How many people are we going to move to laptops effectively? Oh like and not even have desktops anymore yeah? Oh interesting, tell me more yeah and in that conversation, because there’s been like a cost benefit discussion. One of them is that a lot of people that have desktops tend on uh, eventually ending up with both. So if they’re going to have both, they might as well just have a laptop and a solid dock.
Uh then we’re not paying for like two licenses of things like our yeah. Basically, so it’s not just cheaper in licenses, it’s cheaper in Hardware, it’s cheaper in a lot of different ways. It might also even literally be easier for them to just have one. Instead of two um and then they can also have this uh company secured device that they can take home if they need to work from home for being sick or whatever else other reason, etc, etc, etc.
There’S there’s a lot of Arguments for it. It shouldn’t be everybody. Obviously I don’t want to put editors on laptops, so it just be stupid, um, but uh, some some people, and in that conversation it’s like okay. What do we go with? Because we basically just want to have one, because this only really fits the use case of the like low-end desktop user, who basically just needs a browser or that type of stuff, because if the second you need like a GPU well, I don’t really want you on A laptop anyways, so it’s it only really fits one type of user, so we probably only need one type of laptop.
So what when do we go with framework, keeps working its way into the conversation and then working its way back out, because they’re pricey yeah cost matters right, especially when we’re buying like a bunch of them, and we need to have someone Reserve, that’s pretty costly, but Then we do still care about things like repairability. We do still care about total cost of ownership. Yes, so sometimes it kind of works its way back in and right, but what, if all that was broken, was a stupid.
You know fingerprint sensor or whatever the case may be, and you know what there’s a lot of really repairable laptops from guys like HP, yeah from guys like Lenovo, but will they maintain stock yeah of all those little replacement, bits and boms? I don’t know it does. I will to throw Lenovo a bone here it it does help they’re partnered with iFixit. That makes me believe they will a little bit more um the the partner with iFixit every time that happens. My like how much I believe in this thing that they’re doing does go up. I hope I fix it doesn’t sell out me too, because right now they have an amazing name to throw on projects iix.
It is awesome, like I immediately trust some one more when they’re partnered with iix it’s 100 %, which is a hard thing to earn and easy to lose very easy thing to lose, so, hopefully they keep holding on to it. I believe they will um, but you never know someone’s going to retire at some point. Uh leadership will roll over Crystal D. Fier 88 asks wouldn’t framework, just Supply laptops for LTT and float plane.
Oh wow wow. So let me let me put it this way. As a shareholder of framework, wouldn’t want them to do that, would I want them to do that? No just give away laptops if I found out that that was a thing that they were going to do I’d be like. Who else are you guys giving laptops to? Are you guys crazy we’re not even asking them you’re you’re backordered for four months, yeah ship, your laptops to your customers, you mad Lads for real yeah like if, if that was a move that was going to be done, it would be for effectively marketing and advertising, And they’re they’re buying on sh. So it’s not a problem. Yeah yeah yeah! No, please not. We got other things to work on also. We got like a 100 people, so what the Yeah it’ be like, at least it’s not going to everybody, though.
Oh that’s true. That’S true, so some people will still end up having desktops and laptops some people end up, doers will need them, writers are probably going to need them. Writers are probably still going to need desktops yep. It is what it is.
But like me, for example, I could just have a laptop, would you go 13 or 16 if you were getting a framework 16? Do you need a GPU? Oh? Is that the differ? I don’t it. The 16 has a GPU. I don’t need a GPU. To be honest, oh, but you would just want the bigger screen yeah, oh okay.
Okay, that makes sense. Oh man, see that’s. The thing is framework, doesn’t have a broad enough product portfolio because I would tell you you well, you should just get something with a bigger screen. That’S a thinner device, because you don’t.
If you don’t need the power, then you don’t need all that bulk. You don’t need all that weight. It has a really good cooling system in it. Do you need that? No yeah, it’s tough! It’S tough! You should use that folding one that I had for a little bit that so cool yeah, that one is pretty cool.
The review is finally coming soon. Part of this whole thing like yeah like I could maybe have something different, but part of the whole thing is in general standardization guy. I could have something different again, because you know I’m in charge what a guy something too I’m GNA have something different too. I’M G to have this laptop of course, yeah get I’m going to have it right now sure I’d rather have help hosting the show.
Actually wait. No, okay, I’m good. Just I have a GPU um, but yeah like we’re we’re trying to pick what? Oh, no, that oh did I unplug something.
Oh no, I think so cool what has happened like it just shut down. Yeah nice. That’S uh! Sweet! I’M helpful! Like that. I I’m fast quick fingers.
There you go um! You should see how quick I am with my whole fist, though, what I I think Luke missed. Oh, I don’t think he saw really. Oh, oh, that’s even better. That’S pretty funny! You’Ll have to watch the VOD I yeah. I know I have no idea.
Oh boy, don’t worry about it. Could you allow that type of thing on float plane? We definitely do. I don’t even know what it was, but yeah yeah, we’ve uh, We’ve we’ve debated internally many times. You know what would be our limits for content on float plane.
I think Luke and I are both pretty uh if it’s legal, it’s uh, it’s allowed on float plane, but we’ve never really had anyone approach us being like you know. I want to do only fans, but I don’t want to go on only fans. I don’t. We have really yeah. Oh, I didn’t know that yeah, oh okay, and it just came down to what I think the platform features were pretty limited back in the day. Yes, we even support DM.
They wanted to upload pictures and we only at that time supported videos. Oh that’s funny and I was like well sorry only videos and they were like nah like okay, someone’s, like don’t do that guys? How about this? How about just how about subscribe to it? That’S that’s the thing. That’S that’s the reason why we kind of think this way is, you would literally have to be actively giving them money in order to see their content. So if you don’t want to see their content, don’t actively give them money now we are partnered with stripe and uh, effectively PayPal through brain tree, so they exert a significant portion of control, which is very interesting to me and very interesting that so many people are Cool with this, but they exert actually a lot of control um, so it wouldn’t be exactly the same as something like an only fans, because if we have nudity on the platform, it has to fall under the artistic license, assuming anyone ever noticed anyway, yeah because they Have to pay to see it and we’re pretty small platform, but um. So that’s why, for a long time there I don’t think it’s as popular anymore, because people just ye it over to only and then just went full ham. But for a long time there there was a ton of there was a ton of L.
There was a ton of artistic nudity on patreon. A lot of people were doing cosplays while nude. Why do you think that’s happening? It’S because it fit under the terms and conditions that patreon had, because patreon was partnered with whoever, at the time right a striper, whoever it was yeah it was. It was the payment processor that was running through patreon at the time, and then only fans came out and have won dropped.
The yeah, like pork, everyone dropped the like clams, everyone dropped the charade and just started going fully for it because they they were only doing the artistic part to fit under that license. But that’s what we would have as well is it would havek. I had. I had to have a conversation around that time that I had that conversation with that person. I had to have a conversation with my development team at the time be like like, if one of these things has a transcoding failure. Oh I see yeah I was like.
Are you guys cool with this, and I like advise people at the time I was like you should like talk to your partner right right yeah. So I was like don’t tell me right now, right yeah like go, think about it and come back and everyone was like yeah. It’S fine, don’t think it’s going to happen that often anyways and like then it ended up never happening at all. Yeah. Okay, it didn’t matter yeah and chovies, though I’m I’m not sure what that’s a euphemism for yeah.
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