Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Intel says Arc will outperform Nvidia?!”.
Intel says arc is as good or better than nvidia at ray tracing, okay, so here’s the thing about ray tracing is that it only really matters if your rasterization performance is also good. We’Ve seen gpus that just you know had ray tracing hardware on them, but simply weren’t powerful enough for that to matter, because you weren’t going to be gaming at a reasonable level of visual fidelity. Anyway, so tom peterson told pc gamer the rtu or ray tracing unit that we have is particularly well suited for delivering real ray tracing performance and you’ll. See that when you do retracing on comparisons with an rtx 3060 versus an a750 or a700, we should fare very, very well. The intel, graphics youtube channel released a ray tracing technology, deep dive yesterday, where they showed some actual software, everything from benchmarks to real games running on their arc hardware.
So let’s go ahead and skip to some of the timestamps that matter actually luke. Do you want to give me some time stamps here at 18 seconds, there’s ghost wire tokyo running on an a70 with ray tracing here we go wow. Thank you, youtube compression. This looks like absolute horse, so that’s cool one of the problems with any visual stuff on youtube yeah.
What am i even? What am i even running at here? Oh cool, auto, 360p, because because i’m not on a 10 gigabit internet connection, i had a twitch clip. I don’t really watch twitch, but it was a clip. Oh, i had a twitch clip that was shared to me the other day and i was like wow. This looks horrible.
I figured out it had auto to 144 and i was like that’s i’m amazed. Tell me you don’t care about vaude and the vod experience without telling me you don’t care about the vod experience yeah um at 10 46. It shows 3dmark directx ray tracing featured uh test on the a770 versus a 3060 at 1445.
It shows an intel spheres. Demo. There’S there’s some there’s some cool stuff, um yeah, so you can check that out, but here’s our discussion question and this is sort of a big one if this card were released today, okay, amidst the the pricing apocalypse in the gpu market, right yeah, so let’s, let’s Head over to newegg, if these cards were released today with all the the warts that they have like, i mean, even aside from the issues that intel has acknowledged with things like directx 9 performance right, we’ve encountered other problems like emulators.
Just these are small community projects. They don’t have giant teams of developers, they don’t have billion dollar companies behind them right. My experience, running uh emulators on intel graphics, hardware has been has been awful and emulation is a huge part of why pc gaming. You know why a device like the steam deck is so great because you can play literally every game ever, not literally, but you guys understand what i mean right. So, knowing that there are going to be caveats in a world where an rtx 3060 is slashed all the way down to 380 bucks brand new okay, that was the lowest one – that i saw we’re gon na head over to ebay. Okay, these are remember these are current gen cards, we’re not even talking last gen cards that can achieve equivalent-ish performance. So let’s have a look at our sold. Uh, no, not condition come on, come on sold items yeah. Here we go where.
Why are people paying like new pricing for? Oh, that’s, a ti: okay, here’s a 30 60 for 308 dollars, uh here’s the 30 60 for 250; 300. Bucks, 300 bucks 290., so these are going for as little as 250 to just just around 300. At this point, um, what price would intel need to come in at for you to consider an arc alchemist gpu? What would it take like unless it’s okay, no i’m gon na? Let you go first.
Actually, oh, we should pull again, let’s, let’s, let’s pull so. I want to see like 200 to 250 250 to 300 300 to 350., because i don’t think anything above that is reasonable. I mean you can put in 350 to 400. I guess we might as well just have it there right. Okay, i’m working on the pool, okay, luke’s working on the poll uh! Well, maybe i should i wish i could do. I am i just an idiot and i can’t find the pull tool like i don’t see how to do it. I think so. Okay where’s the button. It’S really straight. Oh it’s not in the chat window.
That’S why you can’t find it ah yeah. It’S just to the just barely to the bottom right of the player. Well there. It is look at that and you just make a pull like that now that you know that when the player, when the new player launches yeah, it’s probably going to move cool so and the new player is launching like imminently pretty darn, okay, perfect thanks luke! That’S really helpful. Yeah no worries.
Okay. I want to hear what i want to hear what you say: the the uh. What’S what what’s your reason? Yeah? What’S the what’s the arc arc, alchemist price range for the cause remember this is so we’re talking.
A770. Okay. A770. That’S the that’s the one that they’re positioning against the 30 60.. What’S the price range that would get you to buy. What’S the maximum price range that you would buy at, i think you’re overthinking it. There was too many characters in the title i had to read. You i see: what’s your price, choose your price to me. I for me all this victory. It’S like it’s tough, because at different times i would have said different things, because right now i use my computer for work a lot. So there isn’t one sure you know what i mean, i’m not willing. I need something very stable got it okay, because if i, if i, if i can’t get my computer working, no i’m going to flip this around on youtube, i’m not going to let no i’m not going to let you hide behind the it never works.
I would also say, though, at other times in my life, i really like this type of stuff. Oh, so you would just get the newcomer just to like very likely. I would want to see. What’S going on, i would want to try the different emulators see, which ones broke figure out.
Why see what those emulators were doing about it figure out what the problems were. Try different games. That would be very exciting and enticing for me. So i’d probably say the 300 to 350 range because i wouldn’t want it to be more expensive sure, but i would be willing to take the risk if that makes sense. All right here is i’m going to throw one more scenario at you, though. What if it was today – and you were you now, okay, but it wasn’t for work.
This is purely for a gaming rig because – and before you answer, i want you to consider the challenge that we had um that we undertook recently where we switched to daily driving linux. I i wanted to do this with these cards, so the social i think i mentioned that the social aspect of gaming is like a huge part of it, and that was a big part of what i felt like you, and i both missed out on during the Linux challenge: the struggle is that, even though it run was a, we were able to get a lot of games running, sometimes with a fair bit of work. If you can’t play what everyone else is playing, it doesn’t matter how well it performs it just doesn’t matter, because you are not able to have that social experience. Podrad said if it’s cheaper than 600, i’m not buying it.
I don’t buy anything, that’s not expensive because it makes me feel because it makes me oh shut up, conrad you’re, just trolling you’re trolling where’s, yeezys um. I don’t know if that’s serious or not well, at any rate, um he’s kind of a baller. Here’S the here’s. The poll result so sorry, here’s the poll results.
Okay, i think he’s joking, the winning the winning result is 200 to 250 bucks over on float, plane yeah, because everyone wants it to be as cheap as possible. Getting 46 percent of the vote um, although a massive 36 percent of you are saying 250 to 300, is also fine, with 13 of you saying, 300 to 350., so actually you’re in the you’re in the 13 luke yeah, who are saying like yeah. It just needs to be competitive, it doesn’t actually need. I find it very interesting. I think it would also change depending on what card i currently have. If i had a card that was, you know, it could still do it with modern games. Then i just wouldn’t get rid of my current card right away right because then you could always bail yeah um, but if i had a card that was like it died or something i might be less willing, yeah like you uh, it would depend on my life Stage because there were definitely times in my life that i didn’t have enough capital to like have a spare gpu yeah like i would immediately be flipping that you’d have to be able to afford the next one 100 yeah so like it depends on a lot of Things but there’s definitely price ranges and scenarios here where i’m down 100, i’m very intrigued by these gpus.
I i i think i even mentioned, like us doing a challenge where we have to run it when it was announced or something like that was a long time ago. I don’t remember if i did or not um, but i it’s very interesting to me. I i’ve always really wanted intel to succeed with this, because i want another player in the space.
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