Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Editing on iPad is Hell”.
Oh hi Mark hi Jonathan. What are you doing on my desk? I hear you’re editing the next Mac address. That’S correct, yeah. I thought instead of using this big, cumbersome computer with all these screens, you should go to the next one instead with this.
Oh, this should be interesting. You may have already seen the video Mark edited on the iPad. It’S the long-awaited review of the Samsung viewfinity S9.
It turned out pretty good. I think Final Cut Pro on the iPad is looking like a dream eh. What is like the dream, editing setup for you, I love the concept of touch screen with editing. That is something that I’ve always craved, just being able to have like a more fluid kind of environment where you can just move things around draw whatever you need just yeah, more flexibility and to not be restricted to like a mouse and keyboard. So in a previous video, we actually set the iPad up in a different room. Do you want to edit in that Booth, or do I have to set this desk up that Booth’s cold Final Cut Pro on the iPad? Is a big deal showing just how apple is committing to the Pro in iPad Pro, because that’s basically what you’ll need to run it as it requires an M series chip. You also have the most experience with Final Cut. I think here correct. Probably it’s not just a radical shift in form factor either because Apple priced this at seven dollars a month or 70 for a year. Oh all, right! Let’S see if this justifies the cost, see I can get you 10 gig ethernet wait.
How am I going to plug this into a monitor? The monitor has a daisy chain Port. Where do I get the um? You have access to the server in the files app. So if you go there’s one down there, all footage content unavailable. Okay. So what we do is we eject the drive and then I’ll re just reconnect it. So it’s the server’s fault. Oh it’s the service fault and, like literally dumbfounded, the folder works on a Mac. There’S all the files, the one folder that’s not showing up on this iPad – is the footage folder.
So I guess we’ll ingest it the manually okay, so we fixed the folder. It just had a weird symbol in the folder name: yeah, it sounds okay, so we got to import the footage all right. Let’S do it uh. I don’t think it’s running off the the files off the server.
I think it’s trying to copy them over yep. That’S! What’S happening, how much storage is on this one? Oh no 128! That is not enough uh! I need to get it. I need to get a different night, so this iPad is also an M1 iPad Pro, but this one has a terabyte of storage. The price difference. Staggering, oh, it’s like it doesn’t support it. It’S an mxf uh-huh, it’s funny because mxf in theory should be recognized on most professional editing, softwares, oh yeah yeah, that is frustrating that is really dumb.
It’S literally called Material Exchange format. We see what it translated to Pro is prores might be. The best bet so essentially to even be able to edit within our workflow of the ingest procedure is just completely unworkable, because we have to re-encode every clip on a Mac just use a magnum. It took the better part of the day just to get marks set up to edit on the iPad.
Things are not looking good something about this experience feels familiar. It reminds me of when Final Cut 10 came out back in 2011. Most of the video production industry was using the original Final Cut Pro both Mark and I were, but it was an old 32-bit Relic incapable of handling all the new digital codecs that were emerging at the time. Us editors were all eagerly waiting for something new and that’s exactly what we got Final Cut Pro 10.. Apparently it’s so different from the last version of Final Cut, video and film editors. All over Hollywood are having a very hard time adjusting to it.
Okay, I noticed it was incredibly difficult to use at the start going in with the mindset of any other nle that existed up until that point, it required a complete rethink of how you interacted with something as fundamental as the timeline. If you understand it, it’s great better than Premiere even and then I gave it a shot timed myself for a few edits, and lo and behold it was a lot faster. How long did it take to get to that point? It took about five years. It doesn’t bode well for the iPad’s version of Final Cut Pro to be ready for professional editors, because five years is a lot longer than it would take a clear case like this to Yellow this looks so gross well enter this video’s sponsor dbrands brand new ghost Case they threateningly promise that you’ll die before it even turns, yellow, but, like your phone will die long before that, though, not from a drop, because the ghost case has 10 feet of impact protection, while only being 1.2 millimeters thin.
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In fact, the best features are because of it. The one cool feature that really stood out to me was the skimming tool for touch. This is genius for editing on iPad or any type of touch screen having a built-in jog dial that you can open and collapse, it worked great.
The other thing is the markup for Clips being able to draw things and animate with the pen. I use that multiple times being able to highlight something on the page. It’S probably the coolest thing, so you’ve been editing on Final Cut this video uh.
How is it I was gon na swear at you as a joke as a joke, but not good, really yeah. It was a lot more optimistic than I should have been. I hope so to be honest, Jonathan, it’s more half fake than a Subway cookie. It’S missing a lot of essential features: uh like search for Eclipse. You know I can organize by name or date or whatever, but that’s it try sorting by a list.
Can you make it a list? There’S got to be a main way to make it wait. There’S no lists here; no, no there’s got to be a list for you. There’S no list View. There’S a list view in files. Why wouldn’t there be a list view here? They really assume that you’re you’re just wanting to edit iPhone videos with this. This is a nightmare. Oh sometimes, you can only do certain things with the mouse and keyboard. Sometimes you can only do certain things with touching a pencil. I want to be able to take this with me and just go anywhere, and I can’t if I’m connected to this, the whole idea of flexibility of working anywhere Final Cut Pro on iPad actually makes it more restrictive. So you have to sit at a desk if you want to edit anything really that looks grayish that looks great yeah. You have a vector scope.
Amazing. I’Ve never seen a vector scope without a skin tone line. Yeah, that’s all I’ll, try it where, where are we on a spectrum here of uh foreign ERS, bigger? It’S so tiny, it doesn’t tell you what the decibel level is. You can scale to fill a clip in two separate ways in the crop menu or in the scale menu why they do have three dots up here.
That gives you access to video tutorials, but uh. You have to pay for it. Okay, okay Mark you’ve said enough to be fair to this version of Final Cut.
The project we gave Mark is a complex one, full of demanding sequences using many microphones plugged into our heavy and professional cameras. They record eight tracks of audio per clip. This causes many headaches because Mark can only manually mute one track of audio at a time on the timeline per clip, yeah yeah.
They actually made it worse like significantly worse significantly, worse than Premiere. Well the moment that I discovered the audio issue. I was like okay. This is going to take a lot more time now because of all the extra work I’d have to do for every single clip because of all these glitches. This project is taking a lot longer than it should. In fact, it took so long. Reddit was asking where we went. The simple answer: was this dang thing we’re still, we couldn’t even finish the video on the iPad because of the way it handles color and audio how’s it going uh it’s going whoa.
What’S what are you doing there? I have a proposal for you a proposal. Yes, instead of finishing this Final Cut Pro project in Final Cut Pro, I could finish it in Final Cut Pro: oh, like the computer, one yeah. What’S the big obstacle, audio really uh like it works, but I’m only getting it out of one ear and I have to use this DAC and it’s a bit of a nightmare. It’S not gon na be a edited.
A video edited fully on an iPad, but it’s going to be fully edited on Final Cut Pro I mean I get it like. We got ta get the video done yeah, it’s already been a while two weeks, so, let’s uh sure it’s 90 there. It gives you the ability to do these things, but then it takes away the one thing that you need to make.
It actually work the way you want it to so. As a result, it just slows the whole process down. Oh, it’s bouncing yeah wow. It even keeps all of my marking and my in and out points. Oh, I wonder, can I can I deleted it? I feel kind of bad putting mark up to this. Despite knowing the history, I thought that this version of Final Cut would be a lot farther along than Da Vinci resolve, even which, when I tried earlier this year, I only attempted to edit a simple short who do you think this is for.
I think this is for social media producers. Do you think it’ll be it’s even good for them? If you’re coming in blind, you might have a better experience than I had, and that’s probably the best way to get into this Walmart has been editing. I’Ve been playing around with the iPad version of logic pro that was launched alongside Final Cut.
I’Ve never even touched the Mac version of the app before so I have nothing to be frustrated about this feels like a big step up from GarageBand. That introduces me to more Advanced Audio Concepts. The question is, though, how long before I need even more capability, and will the iPad version be able to provide that in time? I’M being hyper critical? Obviously, because I just got through editing a MAC address video on an iPad, how much slower is it like by what factor, how much slower is it nine to one? It takes nine times longer, yeah, I’m still hopeful it could get better. You know just like Final Cut 10 when it first got released, it did get better and this could get better.
Okay. Last question: does Final Cut Pro for the iPad Pro make the iPad pro pro? No thanks Mark for editing that video on the iPad. If you think that a tablet is the next foray for professional work, give this video a like, and if you missed the video that we made you might as well subscribe.
I’M curious in the comments below how long you think it’s going to take for Final Cut to catch up. .