Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Better than the ROG Ally?”.
Lenovo announces the legion, go handheld yeah it’s to be released in October and highlights include an AMD ryzen Z1 extreme with integrated Graphics. So this is just like the Rog Ally, a starting price of 699 dollars. However, it’s 799 Euros in Europe, which is closer to 860. Us Dollars um a little weird. Maybe this indicates that it’ll be a higher spec. Maybe this is a vat included price um, not 100 sure anywho, uh 49.2. This says hours, I’m sure it means milliamp hours compared to the Allies 40, which would be nice. I’Ve been using my hours, oh Watt, hours of that yeah. That would be a lot higher if it was milliamp hours 49.2.
Well, ours. I think it’s big whatever it doesn’t matter. Anyone’S gon na look at the stock again um that’d be a big Improvement. I’Ve been using the Ally, a lot lately to play um chained echoes, and I I have found the battery life affecting my habits like I will I will play.
Do you play in bed, I play in bed a lot yeah, I’m a bed player. This makes a lot more sense, um just timeline wise of when you log into that game. I’M like okay! Well, I’m like always logged into that game, because I just leave it running. My son was uh making fun of me for taking over 100 hours to beat the game and I’m just like Sun uh.
I I have put like less than half of that into it, because I just like fall asleep and it’s just like lying there, yeah yeah, um anywho. I was sorry I just I fell asleep playing slay the spire on my phone and I my hand was like out like this, and I woke up with my hand, still propped up with the phone still in it um and my girlfriend said. Like yeah, I saw you like that. I just thought it was funny.
I just left it there, but I at least plug it into the charger. No well it. It eventually like, went to sleep and was fine. It didn’t it didn’t, keep the game running the whole time um, but yeah.
I I was I I when I woke up and my hand was still like that. I thought I just dozed off for a second and went to go like put it on the charger, but I realized it was like the morning and I needed to get up. I thought it was pretty funny anyways. The screen is huge. This is uh wild. It has an 8.8 inch display, so this thing is going to be flipping enormous. I hadn’t actually looked at this yet yeah like look at this. Why? Wouldn’T they just put bigger? You know buttons on it at that point.
Are those look even like full-size joysticks like the steam deck? In fact, those look like touch pads like Oh, no just one, it does look like a touchpad one touch pad. I guess that would be convenient for navigation, even if you can’t use it for gaming, like you can on the steam deck I’d like that yeah. Why not yeah I mean you could use it for a certain kind of get you play like a city, Builder game, or whatever else I mean you can’t use them as like a dual Stix replacement, like you can on the steam deck um. The resolution of the display is 2560 by 1600.
It runs it up to 144 Hertz. It has two usb4 ports which may or may not allow you to connect an external GPU um support for egpu on usb4 devices is a little bit hit or miss. I. I am liking the price 16 gigs of RAM 256 to 1 terabyte Gen4 SSD um discussion. Question here is: are we about to see real competition in the gaming handheld space, I’m gon na say no, really yeah? Why? Because nobody is competing with the steam deck right. Now, oh, okay, do you guys see the price of those refurb steam decks by the way dang it Austin Evans, video on refurb Steam, decks? Basically, you’re gon na do the same thing. Not only did a video on refurb Steam decks, but we had an idea to have kind of like a more complete angle on it and um like do a bunch of upgrades to it with the money that you saved and he did the same bloody thing. So anyway, we’re gon na try and do even more upgrades, because, whatever you Austin, I love Austin um, but uh we’re yeah we’re gon na try and do even more upgrade star steam Tech. He was on uh Kyle’s podcast and he was saying that he gets recognized as you like all the time he says it drives him nuts, I don’t know a beard yeah, but you didn’t used to so. He was also at the same time talking about how one of the worst things for people to say when they meet him. Is I used to watch your videos? Oh? What about uh? What about my boyfriend watches your videos, because that’s the one I usually get find that one. Why do you? Why do? Oh? It’S just it’s just it’s just the thing people always say to me.
So it’s like predictable! Oh it’s like it come tell tell me something. I’M not expecting to hear, I guess it. Doesn’T it’s not upsetting or anything. I know what our demographics are yeah, it’s just always funny.
So any any time anytime, sort of um um someone who I I identifies as a woman walks up to me I’ll, go I’ll count. I’Ll start counting down be like five four three two, but my boyfriend loves your video things, but it’s not always that way and it’s pretty cool and it’s not. No, it’s not. No, it’s not always that way, but it very very often is um one of one of the one of the almost the thing Austin said, but not quite ones uh.
When people walk up to me is um uh. I used your guide when I built my first PC, but they like, don’t really remember my name or anything they just like kind of recognize it. So I’m like right, but they probably haven’t watched in like three or four years, because we don’t really do like PC build guides anymore. I don’t know.
I think I think I get recognized a lot less than you guys. So none of the responses really bother me much. I also like I’m not on camera anymore, so people couldn’t really say that they still watch me now unless it’s just went and show right. So, like I don’t know, a shocking number of people watch wind chill. Yeah. That’S true just like I was trying to figure this out. I don’t know if I’ve talked about this on uh on wancho yet, but I was really trying to figure out why I was getting so much attention at LTX, land show land show and the the like. Most hardcore viewers are gon na, be wancho viewers yeah. I didn’t. I didn’t necessarily put together the connection between hardcore viewers and wancho viewers.
I knewancho viewers. If people are gon na recognize me he’s probably gon na be blancho. I knew that, but I didn’t really put together that if they go to LTX they’re very likely watch Wayne show so I was like oh okay. Yeah. Do you have any idea like what percentage of LTX tickets were sold when we like talked about it on wanches? Oh no yeah, it’s a lot yeah, that’s not like all of them or anything like that. Like it’s, not it’s not like that. Some people, the wancho format, is just too long. I get it.
I had. I had a 100. This was actually technically someone who was running a booth um, but I I had a line form in front of their booth and then uh when I left. I I like apologized to them for making their Booth a little bit harder to get to for a little while and like talk to them for a second and the guy was like yeah so like. What’S it like working for a Linus Media Group, and I was like uh, it’s pretty cool he’s like was talking to me as if I was like a very new employee, I was like wow. This is this is kind of awkward but uh. I didn’t like it. I wouldn’t yeah, like sort of has already been here for a while yeah, I don’t know that’s okay, I mean other than that Linus guy, it’s like determined to like crash the company into into the ground. It’S a lot of stress. Otherwise, it’s okay just start screaming. More progressively loud people are great, just like hanging out in the Fishbowl with Dan. It’S really fun.
Oh man, anyways! So yeah, you don’t think competition. No, I just index just stomping. I think that I think the steam deck is stomping. Why do you like the Ally? More than oh, it’s way more, powerful and and as a tinkerer, this is a steam Deck cost. The the reverbs are like 329 Luke whoa yeah they’re, like dangerously close to switch light, that’s actually yeah and when you consider the the cheapness right compared to Nintendo the lifetime cost of this thing, is it it it’s way less right. The steam deck is incredible. I wish it was more powerful. I wish that valve had I wish that valve had adopted a model of iterating on it more frequently. The fact that they’ve decided to treat it less like a PC and more like a console in terms of its life cycle makes sense, but I would have liked to see rapid fire iteration, but other than that. I just I think it is so close to most of what people many people need that it just it kind of irrelevance.
Everything else at that price point, because let’s talk about some of the games that that uh, you know, you’re you’re excited about that have come out over the last year or so right. Like sure you’ve got your you’ve got your star Fields: you’re not going to be playing that on a steam deck. I’Ve heard it’s a pretty bad experience, you’re not going to play it on an ally either yeah. So, okay, whatever like there. Oh, I see your point. They’Re in the same class of Hardware, where you can play older, AAA games or you can play newer ones, kinda, here’s a question: if you were gon na get the premium steam deck but Dave the diver, yeah, okay, uh sea of stars, two stars: you play the Crap out of those, regardless of whether it’s a steam deck or an ally or whatever else, yeah. Okay! So sorry, what were you saying? The premium steam deck the premium steam deck is pretty expensive. What do you do Ally or this go thing? Or would you do premium steam deck um? I would I mean I’ve already told you.
I would go Ally regardless, because I want the extra performance. I also like the form factor of the Ally better. I don’t like how gigantic the steam deck is. So I feel, like the I also like the 120 hertz display hey if I can run the game smoothly, I’d like to because the the premium steam deck is 820 Canadian, but but because the steam deck is so user serviceable, you don’t have to buy that buy The cheapest refurb you can, it says, and then hook a big SSD in it, a better screen, anti-glare class it it does. But you don’t need that yeah, fair enough yeah! It’S it’s a little bit better for glare, but it’s like it’s not a night and day difference. You can go back and you can watch the original Hands-On that we did down in Seattle. It’S yeah! It’S it’s! It’S! It’S better, but it’s not even better in a this, is better and everyone should get it kind of way. It’S kind of a personal preference sort of better okay yeah. So no, I I don’t think that’s a big deal so yeah. If, if I, if I wanted, if I wanted the best possible entry into handheld gaming, I’m buying a refurb steam deck and I’m putting a big fat SSD in it and I’m calling it I’m calling it a day, I’m gon na go, spend my money on a Bunch of great fun, you know indie games or or or lighter games or older games, and I’m gon na play the crap out of that thing, because at the end of the day, it’s not about the hardware. Here’S a counter argument: it’s about the games! Every single refurb steam deck is sold out. Oh really, I blame Austin.
We bought. We just bought one before his video Yep they’re sold out. Okay, there’s three different: what versions 64 gig 256 gig 512 gig they’re all sold out? Also JK Love Austin 3.99.
Is it even oh yeah, it’s like 100 bucks less for each that’s pretty significant holy is. It is yeah same warranty and stuff wow. Even then, at 3.99, it’s still so competitive, yeah love it pretty cool that they have the iFixit hardware and stuff.
It mentions another creator anyway, so yeah – I I don’t know I don’t know if Lenovo is going to make like serious, oh right, so I was going to talk about why I tolerate the Ally. It is a. It is not an appliance.
It’S a computer with a controller and a battery bolted to it, and it really feels like it, and it has all the same issues that PC Gamer gaming has um like when I put it to sleep, it’s most, it’s mostly fixed with the latest firmware. It’S gon na wake up so yeah, just like just like wake up, sometimes for the for the for the first couple of weeks that I was playing, uh, chained, Echoes, um or you know it. You you’ll go to you’ll, have like a weird thing where the, where it doesn’t switch from controller to to Joy to Mouse mode, properly and you’re, just like, ah screw it I’ll just restart. Oh Windows update fantastic um, yeah, okay, okay, okay, stupid little Microsoft’s been trying to build an OS for touch screen since Windows 8 and they still get basic stuff wrong. Okay, you boot up the system you just want to log in so you you swipe a thing.
Then you click the field and then sometimes I get it where I have to click the field again to get the number pad to pop up to enter a pin. It’S like this is three interactions when, realistically I’m sitting here looking at it, it should just be one. I should immediately start typing it’s little things like that that are just cleaner on the steam deck, and I think that there’s a possibility that Microsoft will take the space seriously and that will see you like a a gaming. You know a handheld gaming mode or we’ll see some kind of version of Windows. That’S like really optimized for these things, but I don’t think it’s a given and it’s certainly not going to happen. Anytime, soon valve has put a ton of work into making the steam deck more Appliance like more console like and anything running Windows is not going to be that experience, yeah yeah, fair enough.
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