Hi, this is Wayne again with a topic “Ryzen 7000 is here!”.
News this week, obviously in the tech space is ryzen. 7000 amd dropped absolute knowledge bomb after knowledge bomb about their upcoming plans. Uh the ryzen 9 79 50 x is actually getting a price drop, or rather you could consider it a price correction compared to 5000 series. It’S still 16 cores 32 threads, but can hit a whopping 230 watts when needed and can turbo up to 5.7 gigahertz 5.7 80 megs of cash on board and is rated to run with ddr5 5200 memory.
However, amd has already come out and said that their new expo extended profiles for overclocking uh, ddr5 memory kits um will be available and the sweet spot for ryzen 7000 is going to be 6 000 mega transfers per second um. Oh there’s some discussion questions in here from whoever prepared this topic for us, the 7950x being a hundred dollars cheaper than last gen. Could that mean that they’re reserving the 800 slot for an x3d part that is possible, although i wouldn’t expect it to come any time soon? The 7700x is 100 more than last gen, but that part came out over a year into the rollout, so that kind of makes sense.
So it could be that the 7700x is actually the 5800x replacement. It’S eight core 16 threads maximum boost of 5.4 gigahertz. I love these boost clocks holy crap. Are we ever getting close? I mean amd um ryzen, it’s not a bad thing um, but ryzen generation after generation has been kind of an overclocking dud as far as like overclocking on an air cooler or an ambient water cooler. Obviously, the liquid nitrogen folks are doing what they do with it right, but for for the mere mortals among us, it doesn’t really overclock much, which is another way of saying that amd has really optimized it to run at the maximum attainable speed for consumers. Out of the box yeah um, but they are getting like shockingly close to that six gigahertz barrier.
That’S just like other topics we’ve had today is boring, but good amd claims that the 7950x, their top tier chip, is 11 faster overall in gaming compared to the 12 900k, and that even the ryzen 5 70 600 x, which is 300, beats the 12 900k in Gaming, while also costing a lot less how competitive will ryzen 7000 be with raptor lake asks our discussion question uh, especially because raptor lake is rumored to be more expensive than alder lake 12th gen uh wow canadian retailers listing 13th gen intel core processors with prices 15 To 19 percent higher than all their late counterparts with that said, i know from my experience in retail that sometimes what we would do is we would put in placeholder prices before we actually got formal pricing that was just definitely higher than what it would be, so That way, we could have the listings up. We could prepare our pages and everything. No almost nobody would actually order at those prices because and the product’s not even out yet it’s not shipping or anything. But what it would mean is that you could get everything prepared and you definitely wouldn’t lose money if people ordered it early. So it could be that this is not actually that meaningful either way it could be. It could mean that the competition between raptor lake and ryzen 7000 is going to be a little tighter than uh. The initial rumors might have indicated. I’M i’m excited, oh no. We forgot to take it. Mister who’s, the boss, yeah, that’s my bad! Well, i guess we’ve ruled out um, sorry um. What do you think the sweet spot is? What do you think the the the mover is gon na be? Oh, i think it’s absolutely going to be uh 7700x yeah at 400 bucks for eight core 16 thread. 5.4.
Gigahertz boost, especially because, like precision boost whatever amd calls it their boost technology is so good that i would actually expect this if you provide ample cooling to exceed that in some cases like i i with a just a tiny little bit of adjustment, i just don’t See how you’re going to get any kind of meaningful performance uplift in games going to a 7900x or 7950x? Of course, i am totally excited to be proven wrong. I’D love to see you know massively. Multi-Threaded games come and i’d love to see just like absolutely like runaway frame rates um, but i just i don’t.
I don’t foresee it happening at a time when the current generation consoles all have eight core cpus. I just don’t think it’s realistic, am5 motherboards, the high-end x670 and x670e will be available at launch while b650e and b650 will arrive in october. This is a good question. It’S not going to come down to just performance if ryzen, 7000 and raptor lake trade blows, but amd has committed to support am5 through at least 2025, which is better than intel typically does. Why would anyone choose intel? It’S a good question.
I would really like to see intel stick to their sockets for a little bit longer to be clear, amd’s track record here, not perfect. I personally personally invested much money into their strx40 platform, which they said was going to get future threadripper processors which, as of yet have not material zen4, is launching on am5, and i don’t even have a zen 3 option for my editing stations yet paid for many Of those, so let’s be clear, amd’s track record, not perfect. We got one generation of chips that was it um, but they are saying that they’re going to go till 2025 and intel typically does only two cycles. So 13th gen is going to be the end of lga, 1700, theoretically, which will support 12th and 13th gen, which has been a strong argument against ryzen 5000 right now, because the 12th gen platform has had some room to grow while to our to my knowledge, they Still haven’t confirmed any kind of zen for anything for socket am4, although i think they acknowledge that it could be a possibility. Uh, amp, 323, yes, 5000 threadripper pro is out now it doesn’t fit in an strx40, socket fat lot of good. That does me. I didn’t want threadripper pro. I wanted thread ripper for my strx40, socket whatever by the way right so so in the current battle 12th gen versus ryzen, 5000 12th gen is the smart play all other things being equal.
Wouldn’T you rather have an upgrade path. If am4 is dead end, so the same thing’s gon na happen again where raptor lake is gon na, be the end of lga 1700. Probably, if, if intel’s pattern is anything to go on while am5 could have one two, maybe maybe three upgrades still now – that’s not to say that you’ll get the absolute most out of those future chips on this older platform motherboard. But that’s another thing amd has done a pretty darn good job of is maintaining that performance across multiple platforms. Okay, there was one last thing for ryzen 7000 by the way pcie gen, 5.
and pcie 5.0 ssds will come to market in october. I think that we’ve kind of reached the practical limit of pcie ssd speeds mattering for consumers for the next few years. Yeah, that’s good, especially because there are other bottlenecks that are going to be concerns long before that kind of massive sequential throughput is going to be a problem.
Still good, though oh is my bleep, not working, you want. You want that level of component to be ahead. That’S fair, that’s fair, because new hardware will come and you want your your old platform to be ready for it i mean there’s nothing more frustrating than going back to an old system. You know like uh, i don’t know – let’s say intel 2000 3000 series and going yeah.
This is still totally fast enough for what i need to. Oh, my god. It has like two usb 3 ports – yep 100 yeah.
Oh good, gigabit ethernet is what we’re going to think about anything older than like a couple years ago, yep like really gigabit, i’m trying to transfer a freaking file here. Yeah come on for real, though for real .